Some companies just don’t get it right (case of Regfly.com)

by Irfan Syed on August 12, 2009

Some companies just don’t get it right
Once upon time I purchased a cheap SSL certificate from a company called Regfly. I was starting a small business and wanted the low cost solution to get started. They were nice. Got the information they needed, issued me the SSL certificate for my web server which I used for a year.
As it happens for many businesses, my little business did not take off. I shutdown everything related to that business-  including the website. And of course I never renewed this certificate.
That was over 3 years ago.
Couple of months back, I got the following email from them. Gently reminding me to renew my SSL certificate which had expired.
And of course it had expired couple years ago and as I did not need it, I was happy clicking DELETE button in my mailbox.
3 days later, I got the same email again. I enjoyed the usefulness of DELETE button again.
Another 3 days later, the same email arrived again. This time before I relied on my trusted DELETE button, I, being a good customer of them, decided to let them know that I was not interested in certificate renewal anymore and they should not send me these frequent reminders.
First I logged into their website (after password reminder procedure of course) and searched and searched the option whereby I could disable the reminders. To no avail, I thought I should just CLOSE my account. They were nice enough to have that option on their website.
I followed the procedure and CLOSED my account. Happy as I was, I was also confident that this time email reminders will stop.
But NOT. 3 days later, I got the same hopeless reminder again with no links whatsoever to Unsubscribe or take myself off the list.
Went to their website again, in hope of searching a customer support email address I could reach them on. With none listed on their website, I guessed some common aliases and sent the email to support@regfly.com as well as customerservice@regfly.com. Email bounced from the 2nd address but was supposedly delivered to first one.
I waited hoping someone will get back to me and take me off these annoying reminder. But NOT.
The reminders keep coming back every 3rd till today. I have been left with no choice but to use Gmail’s convenient “Report as Spam” function. At least now emails do not come to my inbox.
I have no grudge against Regfly but I am posting this to express my frustration how some companies providing services for internet do not get their basic operations right. Regfly in this case has:
*. No option in email to let me unsubscribe
Has not email address I can contact them on
There is no phone number on their site I can call them on.
Every time you click on links like “Contact Us”, they want you to login first!
After you login, there is still no easy way to contact them besides submitting a form.
They do not reply emails.
They have programmed this reminder service so badly that it remembers after 3 years of certificate expiry to start sending reminders.
And these reminders do not stop.
Takeaways from this experience:
Do not do business with any company which does not have their contact information conveniently listed for everyone (I knew it, but well, we all make mistakes)
Do not do business with Regfly anymore
Do not recommend other people to use their services
Let other people know when a business goes bad (and I think they have in these times of recession).

Once upon time I purchased a cheap SSL certificate from a company called Regfly. I was starting a small business and wanted a low cost certificate to get started. They were nice. Got the information they needed, issued me the SSL certificate for my web server and made me happy.

Six months on, as it happens for many businesses, my little venture did not take off. So I shutdown everything related to it –  including the website. And of course I never renewed this certificate.

That was over 3 years ago.

Couple of months back and over 2 years after the certificate had expired, I got an email similar to this one gently reminding me to renew my SSL certificate.

Regfly.com SSL Cert Renewal Reminder Email

Since I did not need the certificate, I relied on my email’s trusted DELETE button.

3 days later, the reminder arrived again. One more time I enjoyed usefulness of the DELETE button.

Another 3 days later, the reminder popped up yet again. I got annoyed and decided to get rid of it – confident of easy solution. I thought it will be good idea to let them know that I was not interested in certificate renewal and they should not send me these reminders.

Following usual instinct, I searched for “unsubscribe” or “contact us” link in the email. There was none. I surfed to their website to find any link to unsubscribe or contact them but they wanted me log in first. Having forgotten my password, used the password reminder procedure and logged in. But still there was no option to disable the reminders or unsubscribe from emails.

However I did find a CLOSE my account function. Totally believing that it will also stop all emails from them, I went ahead and CLOSED my account.

But NOT. 3 days later, I got the same hopeless reminder again. Ouch!

With no listed email address or phone number to contact them on their website, I guessed they should have an email alias like support@regfly.com or customerservice@regfly.com. I sent an email to both addresses explaining the situation. The email bounced from the 2nd address but supposedly delivered to first one.

I waited hoping someone will get back to me and take me off these annoying reminders. But NOT.

No one got back to me. The reminders kept coming every 3rd day. I was left with no choice but to use Gmail’s convenient “Report Spam” function. I did that and these reminders started going to Spam folder.

That is the only and less-than-perfect solution techie in me could find to get rid of this unneeded annoyance. Regfly is now among ~5 other companies which annoy me regularly in similar way.

I have no grudge against them but I am posting this to express my frustration over how companies – some providing services for internet itself – do not get their basic internet operations right.

Regfly:

  • have no option in their email communication to let me unsubscribe or provide feedback
  • have no contact information in emails or on website
  • want everyone to log in before one can see “Customer Service” page! But after you login, there still is no easy way to contact them besides submitting a form.
  • do not reply emails.
  • have programmed this reminder service so badly that it starts reminding you about expired stuff only after couple years of expiration. And the reminders keep coming every 3 days, seemingly forever.

Takeaways from this experience with Regfly:

  • Do not do business with any company which does not have their contact information conveniently listed for everyone
  • Do not do business with Regfly anymore
  • Do not recommend other people to use their services
  • Let other people know when a business goes bad (and I think they have in these times of recession)

{ 3 comments… read them below or add one }

ali August 13, 2009 at 10:21 am

Did you try to click the “Renew Cert” link? maybe you can get to them . I always find this way easy to talk to customer service person with sales/promotion etc route.

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Irfan Syed August 13, 2009 at 11:20 am

That is only if you can find a phone number on their website. There is none!

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ska October 21, 2009 at 3:52 pm

Hi there, sounds like you were lucky to get your SSL at all from these guys! I also get these reminders every three days and also had the added bonus of not being being issued with the cert, despite having paid for it. (I’m not the only – plenty of results on a Google search). Anyway, more of my story here;

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1143421

Basically, do not under any circumstances purchase an SSL or indeed any other service from Regfly as these guys are full on criminal scammers…

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